Managing the Little Things | Part 1 | Two Guys No Lies, a Christian Podcast

Cody: I would be like, “Sweet.” I get break even.

Caleb: Break even? Okay. This is what he says. He goes, “You wicked, lazy servant.” He calls him a wicked servant, not just bro. He calls him wicked. He said, “You knew that I harvest where I do not sow and gather where I have not scattered seed. Well, then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers so that I would at least made interest off of it.” Then, he took that talent away from that guy and then he gave it to the guy with five. That being said, is that if you can’t do something with what you’ve been given, what makes you think that he’s going to give you more or be happy with just a break even?

Cody: I’ve always had the thought that God’s will is going to happen. There’s no doubt about it.

Caleb: What do you mean God’s will is going to happen? It’s going to happen no matter what?

Cody: Okay. Just let me back up. Say you’ve got this guy over here. Right? It is God’s will for him to hear the gospel. Now, obviously, it’s up to his own free will to accept the gospel, but he’s going to hear the gospel. If I was created so that guy could hear the gospel and I didn’t fulfill my purpose, I really believe that God is going to rise up someone else.

Caleb: Sure. That goes back to like, “I’m going to take what was yours. I’m going to give it to somebody else who is doing it, who is a good steward.”

Cody: I’ve always thought if I’m not a good steward with this area of my life …

Caleb: God’s not going to give you more.

Cody: What makes you think that it’s not … ? That you’re just going to be able to skirt along? You’ve got to have that mindset that this is my purpose and I’ve got to do all I can to achieve it because at the end of the day, God’s will, will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Somebody is going to rise up and they’re going to lead the church. If I stay comfortable and where I’m at …

Caleb: Then, you’re not going to do it.


Cody: It’s not me, then there’s somebody that’s brought up by God that is doing it right.

Caleb: I should not expect to be given anything more than what I’ve got if I can’t handle what I’ve got, or if I just don’t do anything with it. I’m just like, “Time is just time, bro,” and I don’t manage my time. God can’t multiply that just like he did with the servant. He couldn’t do anything with it. He called him a wicked servant, bro. Wicked. That’s evil stuff.

Cody: Yeah. It’s, “You’re the worst.”

Caleb: Yeah, you’re the worst. Then, it’s like at the end of the verse he’s like, “Bind him hand and foot and cast him into outer darkness.” You’re like, “Bro.” Like, “Apply that to like everything that you have to manage in your life and take a good look.” I need to take a good look. At Starbucks, you asked me, “Okay. What are you going to do to change it?” Right?


Cody: Right.

Caleb: That’s what you asked me. I got on Have you never heard of

Cody: It’s a new single site. No, I’m just kidding.

Caleb: Where you only find minty people. I don’t even know how to make a joke out of that.

Cody: We only find people who are financially stable. He’s going to try to find a financially stable … No. Anyways,


First off, no. Second off, it’s not what it is. Number three, I’m going to get back to what I was saying. Okay, yeah. It’s It links up your accounts and enables you to track everything. You can make a budget. Like I said, I have an idea about some of these things, but I don’t get specific and I don’t get detailed, part of me because money makes me freak out. Then, while I’m driving, I’m like, “God, what fears do I have tied to money?” I’m like that servant who was afraid and just buried it. What does burying mean? It means that you’re ignoring it. Maybe you’re like, “I’m really bad at managing my time so I’m just going to ignore it completely,” or “I’m really bad at managing money.” What are you going to do? I’m just going to ignore it completely.

Cody: I really liked what you said at Starbucks that you were like, “When we don’t understand something, we automatically think it’s the devil.”

Caleb: Yeah. I’m driving from the bank. What are my first thoughts? Money is stupid. I wish we didn’t have to deal with money. “Money is the root of all evil.” All these ridiculous things. Then, it popped into my head. It was like when we don’t understand something or we’re not automatically good at something, we deem it as evil or we deem it as bad. I gave you the example of an older person who’s on a new computer. What do they do? They just freak out. They’re like, “I don’t get this. This is from the devil. I wish we could go back to Windows ’96.” Is that bad? Would it be better using Windows ’96?

Cody: No.

Caleb: No, but because we’re not automatically good at something, we deem it as wrong or evil or we’re like, “Yeah. The world would be better without money.” Not true. It wouldn’t be true. It wouldn’t be better if we didn’t have money because money is a resource. It’s like we just ignore the things that we’re not good at managing. What do you do if you’re not good at managing people?

Cody: You hate people.

Caleb: You just ignore people. Yeah. People are stupid.

Cody: Right. People are dumb. People are the worst.

Caleb: You just what? You just look after yourself, but if God can’t trust you with those people, but then at the same time you’re praying for more influence in the world through whatever it is, you can’t even manage the circle of influence you have right now. In fact, you ignore it because you just, you’re not good at it or you don’t understand it or maybe you’re trying to … you know what I mean?

Cody: Yeah.

Caleb: For me, it was like, “What do I need to change?” For me, I like to sit down an hour or two hours every Saturday and just go through my statements and see where my money is going and then never get caught off guard to where I look at my bank account and be like, “Oh. That’s a lot less than what I thought.”

Cody: That’s good. I’ve used an app before. I used to use it a few years ago for probably six months or so. Obviously, I suck at money. When the app was telling me what I thought it would tell me, I deleted it because of the world we live in.

Caleb: Yeah. You buried it.

Cody: Bury it. Get it out of here. This app is the devil.

Caleb: “What are you doing, bro?” “Nothing. What are you doing?” “Just shoveling it over.” “Are you good?” “Yeah. Let’s go to Starbucks.”

Cody: “It’s good, man. Let’s go.”

Caleb: “I need coffee.”

Cody: Yeah. I’ve got endless experience for coffee. It’s great because if you’ve never used the app before …

Caleb Hutton: I’m just in the last bit of it’s not even coffee anymore.

Cody David: It’s just water.

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